What matters more than ICTs: As one the members of the Presidential International Advisor Council on Information and Development, Esther Dyson took a lead in a Q&A session instead of giving a presentation. With Mark, and the Deputy Minister she spent the past weekend with President Thabo Mbeki. She highlighted some optimism from people in developing world, and said that there is a need to move forward and not wait for everything to come together. Most members believed that , the question of regulation is inevitably the most cutting edge topic. Most of the questions had in one way or the other questioning the notion of accessibility, affordability, bandwidth and making internet free as the deputy minister claimed. One thing Esther stressed was creating a desire in the public, the consumers for more Internet services and them lobbying government to reduce access costs.